Showing posts with label cooling. Show all posts
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Friday, December 28, 2012

AMD A10-5800k Reviews

I have been trying to find the best settings for overclocking my AMD A10-5800k Trinity. While I can reach 4.7GHz with the CPU on air, I haven't been very lucky with the iGPU only reaching 1050 Mhz. I believe the latter will translate to a more important performance boost when gaming. Given I paired the 7660d with a Radeon 6770 DDR3, games in DirectX 11 perform well, however I should make a comparison to see which GPU actually performs better. For example, The Witcher 2 is a DX9 game. It is quite demanding on the GPU. In the AMD Performance Monitor, I see that the 6770 is almost fully loaded, while the 7660d does not seem to be used at all. Given my system RAM is 2133MHz and the iGPU can overclock, I may get an improvement from using the 7660d alone.

This article on overclocking by tamjinhang is excellent. Given the BIOS configuration for each motherboard is different, you will have to adjust accordingly.

Tweaking of the voltage and the frequencies is time consuming and can be frustrating. I wish that there were a simple version of Linux used only for testing benchmarks and stability of an overclocked system. Windows 8 doesn't deal well with multiple reboots without proper recoveries : not uncommon when overclocking.

While I like the concept of Dual Graphics, there doesn't seem to be enough titles out there that justify DX 11. The chicken and the egg debate continues.


The articles below are not all linked to the first page of the articles. Hover you mouse cursor above to see the publisher URL.

As for the articles on the AMD A10-5800k, here they are :

Vortez Tony Le Bourne
AMD Trinity A10-5800K Review - Testing & Conclusions | Widescreen Gaming Forum
AMD A10-5800K Unlocked "Trinity" Quad Core APU Review
AMD A10-5800K + Radeon 7660D Tested 
Dual Graphics, Influence mémoire - AMD A10-5800K et A8-5600K : APU desktop, deuxième ! - HardWare.fr
[M] AMD Trinity A10 5800K APU Review
AMD Trinity A10-5800K APU Review 
AMD A10-5800K and A8-5600K APUs for Socket FM2 Review | techPowerUp
AMD 2nd Generation A10 5800 & A8 5600 Desktop APU Review » Page 5 - Test Setup and Overclocking - Overclockers Club
AMD Trinity for Desktops. Part 2: Socket FM2 Platform and AMD A10-5800K Processor Review. Page 10 - X-bit labs 
Review: AMD A10-5800K Dual Graphics evaluation - CPU - HEXUS.net - Page 3
AMD Trinity A10-5800K Review | Pure Overclock
AMD's Trinity APU Efficiency: Undervolted And Overclocked : Trinity: Great Gamer, But What About Power? 
AMD Trinity A10-5800K APUReview | Overclockers
AMD A10-5800K review | Processors Reviews | TechRadar
Rage3D.com : AMD A10 5800K Launch Review [ Battlefield 3 / Sniper Elite v2 ] 
AMD A10-5800K APU Performance Review - Introduction
AMD Trinity: A10-5800K & A8-5600K 2nd Gen APUs | silentpcreview.com
ocaholic - CPU Charts: 29 CPUs - updated AMD A10 5800K 3.8 GHz Trinity - Charts - Reviews 

AMD Trinity Review - AMD vs Intel - A10 5800K vs Core i3 3220
AMD Trinity A10 5800K APU | AMD Trinity A10 5800K APU Review
AMD A10 and A8 Trinity APU: Virgo Desktop Experience - HotHardware
AnandTech - AMD A10-5800K & A8-5600K Review: Trinity on the Desktop, Part 2

If you have any articles that you would like to add, in any language, please do not hesitate to post it in a message below.

Monday, October 22, 2012

A frivolous computer build - Gaming with an AMD A10-5800k - Power consumption and Capital Costs

I had no reason to get a new computer. My main motivation was to quit wasting time comparing prices, looking at benchmarks etc. The 5 year old ThinkPad T61p that I am using now is great. I can play modern games on lower settings, my screen is WUXGA and I can't think of a better keyboard. However, feeling down from a groin injury, I caved into my desire to get a new machine and shopped online.



At first, I was considering a full pre-built system from HP. Although a built system has its advantages as it will work out of the box, it is not what I wanted. The tweaking and is what I take a little pleasure in. Ecologically, a pre-built system is far better than retail, however purchasing boxed individual products is part of the marketing and packaging. Compared to food products, the packaging that will come with individual components is not really a concern. 

I won't deny that I am partial to AMD for the underdog position that it has in the market. It is also true that I am not willing to spend 300$ on a CPU, such as the i7-2600k, which offers no better performance over the A10. The AMD A10 APU definitely looks good when it comes to real world applications. The AMD A10-5800k does not offer the fastest performance across the board, so you may want to look into specific options if you know what you will be doing ( video encoding, 3D modelling etc.). In fact, it appears that the Trinity APU may be all over the map when it comes to synthetic benchmarks.  I will be doing some gaming, photo editing, and some light video work.

So why did I take the plunge and splurge? My goal was to get some pleasure of building a computer, which I find to a very easy and enjoyable task. As far as I can remember, potential problems are not that frequent, but still enjoyable to solve. Mind you, having to send back defective hardware would be a total pain. I will be conservative when overclocking.


The Build


I really should be spending my time programming rather playing games, however there is a an appeal of using a new system.


(personal note - insert photo )

Here is the breakdown :


MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 mATX Motherboard  $60
AMD A10-5800K APU Quad Core Processor Socket FM2 3.8GHZ $120
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-17000CL11D-8GBXL 8GB DDR3-2133 Kit $53
ASUS BW-12B1ST Blu-Ray Writer 12X BD-R 16X DVD+R SATA Black Retail $60
Microsoft Comfort Curve 3000 Keyboard & Mouse Combo USB $10
TP-Link TL-WN350G Wireless Network Adapter 2.4GHZ 802.11B/G 54MBPS PCI $10
Seagate Barracuda Green 1.5TB SATA 6GB/S 3.5IN 12MS 5900RPM 64MB Hard Drive $70
Case iMicro CA-816BK45 450W  ATX Tower  $41
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink 120mm $23
Gigabyte Radeon HD 6670 800MHZ 1GB 1.6GHZ DDR3 Video Card $45
Card Reader $5
SATA cables $6 ( not necessary as they are included in with the motherboard but good to have nonetheless) 
Total :  $500

I think this is quite a nice build too!



There are a few items that I could have skipped or acquired for cheaper :
iGPU only -> -45$
Blu-ray writer -> DVD drive -$45
DDR3 2133 -> DDR3 1600 -$20
PCI Wifi -> (ethernet cable) -$10
Card Reader (use camera / phone bluetooth or cable) -> -$5
Use the stock CPU fan/cooler  ->-$23 ( I read the stock cooler is relative noisy, so I am going with this review about the Cooler Master 212 Plus Touch)
Total : $355

What items are missing? An OS like Windows 8. I may install Linux to see if there is anything worthwhile for me to make the switch again, however I like to stick to the most common operating system as it gives me the opportunity to assist others if they need help. Then again, Windows 7 has been so solid that I have a hard time imagining people having problems with it.

So will we see budget AMD A10-5800k systems coming out before the Holiday Season ?


Shortly, I will have some photos, benchmark results and screenshots using FRAPS.